Just sayin'
(2 Samuel 1:26) . . . I am distressed over you, my brother Jon′a‧than, Very pleasant you were to me. More wonderful was your love to me than the love from women. . .
Anna Marina
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"This is Where They Lived Happily Ever After Begins"
by The Bethelite ini saw this sign (i'm sure the bride must have bought it) at a wedding rehearsal dinner yesterday.. yes, the smiling bride was there ordering her soon to be groom around as they were setting up their party decorations.
i'm sure today october 5th will would be the happiest day of their young lives.. have you ever noticed that many movies end at the wedding ceremony?
because for the vast majority of marriages that is the best it ever gets!
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Anna Marina
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The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is a pretentious fraud.
by Finkelstein inyup that's right the jws religion is a pretentious fraud orchestrated by men running their own religious publishing house.. these men cultivated a semblance of power around themselves through their own propagation of being chosen by god or being more righteous than other christian leaders by their self supporting acclaim that they have truer and more accurate bible interpretations.
another known fact is these top leading men were not academically trained bible scholars.
the first leading executive writer of the wts was a professional clothing salesman/ businessman.
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Anna Marina
Hi LV101 - bits of info I have pick up over the years.
1884 John Henry Patterson bought out his fellow investors in the National Manufacturing Company and formed the National Cash Register Company, the predecessor of NCR Corporation. Located in Dayton, Ohio, this company made cash registers.
5/5/1889 Joseph Rutherford was under tutelage of Judge E L Edwards. By now he was official court reporter and on this date licensed to practice law in Missouri.
In this same year he accepts books from Bible Students.
1895 Court of Appeals of Missouri – a civil lawsuit - case, F.P.COOK v. PETER HECHT - Joseph Rutherford sought civil damages for "property damage", against Peter Hecht. He lost the case.
1896 Joseph Rutherford came within 100 votes of becoming the Democratic candidate for state legislature representing Cooper County, Missouri.
William Jennings Bryan first stood as Presidential candidate. Joseph Rutherford accompanied him because he believed that zealous Presbyterian was "appointed by God to straighten out the problems of the world."
Joseph Rutherford represented the National Cash Register Company against David Nicholson of Boonville.
1906 Joseph Rutherford was baptised by Macmillan and Watchtower HQ moved from Allegheny to Brooklyn.
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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish
by Anna Marina inyes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.
that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.
well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.
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Anna Marina
Hi ballistic
I knew some of the teachings were wrong. I remember as we sand songs about he harvest time, I thought, 'this is wrong.' Then they changed the teaching about the sheep and the goats and I'd never even been taught it. I thought, 'who on earth ever believed we were in the time when the sheep and goats were being judged?'
But what i didn't realise was that many of the elders were actors and that somethings were said to deliberately confuse and baffle and would never get changed.
Beware what you are working on, or you might end up on the Governing Body.
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Serious question!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhow would you answer:.
how can you change or improve an individuals dominant mental attitude?.
zing.
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Anna Marina
Some people don't change unless things affect them personally.
On the other hand if you are an advertiser and can make people feel the lack of something, you can get them to want things they don't need. How many of us felt we ought to put in a report with the number of hours we had done on the ministry, when scripturally there was no need?
And how may decided it would be better to knock on doors of people who weren't interested rather than help the sick, the poor, the lonely and the widow etc?
The Watchtower organisation has set itself up as an educational authority which lords it over others. It dispenses priviledges, and hold graduations. Where in the Bible does Jesus hold a graduation ceremony? Watchtower hierachy decides who will become the new elite, it decides who should be looked up to. And as Sigmund Freud's nephew pointed out, as he established what we call PR, you don't need to bother about the little people. You only need to control the minds of the leaders because all the others will follow. And one of the main tools in the tool box is glamour.
https://stock.adobe.com/ee/images/beautiful-woman-smoking-cigarette/106225135
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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish
by Anna Marina inyes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.
that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.
well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.
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Anna Marina
Oh we'd get told things like this
(Matthew 16:5-12) 5 Now the disciples crossed to the other side and forgot to take loaves along. 6 Jesus said to them: “Keep YOUR eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 7 So they began to reason among themselves, saying: “We did not take any loaves along.” 8 Knowing this, Jesus said: “Why are YOU doing this reasoning among yourselves, because YOU have no loaves, YOU with little faith? 9 Do YOU not yet see the point, or do YOU not remember the five loaves in the case of the five thousand and how many baskets YOU took up? 10 Or the seven loaves in the case of the four thousand and how many provision baskets YOU took up? 11 How is it YOU do not discern that I did not talk to YOU about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 12 Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of the loaves, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish
by Anna Marina inyes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.
that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.
well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.
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Anna Marina
Hi ballistic
I was baptised in 1992, so I was a newbie to some of those older teachings. I was talking to one today who was brought up in this man-trap for Christians cult and he told me how he spoke to an elder and said, 'we are bringing people in through the front door then they go straight out the back door. It's all wrong. Why are people leaving?' The elder had no answer for him.
Sounds like elder's wife (in your comment) was trying to warn you but she was not allowed to be open with you. I remember the very clever comment of a District Overseer's wife. Regarding the organisation she said, 'respect it for what it is but don't take it too seriously.'
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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish
by Anna Marina inyes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.
that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.
well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.
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Anna Marina
Thank you Finkelstein. It wasn't until that 2005 talk that I realised something was so seriously wrong with their doctrine that it was a deal-breaker.
I had never understood their interpretation of presence. I understood about the 1914 calculation and was skeptical and challenged this elder and at least one other on it while I was still studing. I feel I was misled when the elder referred to in the video told me that 'if the GB have got anything wrong, they will correct it.'
Well he didn't tell me WHEN they'd correct it. Nor did he tell me that if I wrote to them pointing out a serious doctrinal error, they'd neither acknowledge they were wrong nor reply to me. I'd just get told, 'wait on Jehovah and don't talk to anyone about this.'
After this event in 2005/6, I found Ray Franz's website online and wrote to him about what had happened to me. He helped me to understand what was going on.
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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish
by Anna Marina inyes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.
that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.
well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.
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Anna Marina
Yes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish. That was in 2006. Now in 2019 I have recently been thrown out of the Watchtower organisation. Why? Well here's a video I put together showing early events to do with this.
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The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is a pretentious fraud.
by Finkelstein inyup that's right the jws religion is a pretentious fraud orchestrated by men running their own religious publishing house.. these men cultivated a semblance of power around themselves through their own propagation of being chosen by god or being more righteous than other christian leaders by their self supporting acclaim that they have truer and more accurate bible interpretations.
another known fact is these top leading men were not academically trained bible scholars.
the first leading executive writer of the wts was a professional clothing salesman/ businessman.
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Anna Marina
Hi Smiddy - just saw your comment to me. How you pronounce the name of the God of Abraham depends on phonetics. For instance the name John, Ian, Jan, Evan, Ivan are all the same name. I think the J or Y issue comes in due to the German/English translations. Ju or Yu are very similar. Regarding V or W - the W in German is actually V.
In English if you say O, you can hear the W. Maybe in German the sound is OV.
When I've heard some rabbis pronounce the W in Hebrew I've hear them use the V sound rather than W.
On the subject of phonetics Ts can become Ds. Bs can become Vs, Ks can become Gs etc.
But the identity of the God of Abraham remains the same however you pronounce His name.
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The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is a pretentious fraud.
by Finkelstein inyup that's right the jws religion is a pretentious fraud orchestrated by men running their own religious publishing house.. these men cultivated a semblance of power around themselves through their own propagation of being chosen by god or being more righteous than other christian leaders by their self supporting acclaim that they have truer and more accurate bible interpretations.
another known fact is these top leading men were not academically trained bible scholars.
the first leading executive writer of the wts was a professional clothing salesman/ businessman.
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Anna Marina
Leading Watchtower people may not be scholars. You could say they are beyond scholars.They are psychologists, sociologists, rocket scientists and actors roled into one. Their stupidity is that they use all this to try to cover over self-evident lies by confusing people.
By reading the Bible and comparing its words to what they are saying, the lies eventually become clear to you.
Then, if you are concerned about sticking to what the Bible really says and challenge their authority, you get thrown out.
But not everything they teach is wrong and you have to be careful not to identify Jehovah with them because they'd love you to do that. It would be a victory for them, is as you leave, you abandon your faith in Jesus Christ and his Father, Jehovah.
Hi Smiddy, just saw you post, yes its sucks people's lives, resources and intelligence out of them.